last month i heard a talk from a c.o.
he mentioned that the door to door service will come to an end.
he said that jehovah will tell us to stop it, eventually.
heard that line when i was in...
think it hooks em all again when numbers go down they say it might be winding up and makes them get more excited. They can wind the rank and file up or down continually. They can thus justify cut backs, bethel sell offs etc on the slowing pace/the work almost done...for years!
Oz
in the german edition of the new dvd sparlock is called sator.
i'm sorry about this, because sparlock sounds much better and meanwhile it is a powerfull meme (and i was thinking about antending one of the dc here with a sparlock-shirt).
you see the typical german lack of imagination.
Kaleb according to google translate, but then, it also says Spurlock
oz
the anonymous hacker group has proven themselves effective in the past.
lets wait and see if they pull it off again with the wts.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyl4waps2o.
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If the WT had a list it would have been burned a long time ago.
Personaly i find anonymous to be a bit thick (if it is them) to announce the target file and expect the WT to sit back and watch the show.
Done shot themselves in the foot me thinks with this one, and even if a list surfaces then it will be subject to suspicion as legit by many and a good few here as well.
no win here.
Oz
so, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
Fast forward 10 years and we shall see some very damaged teenagers acting out, i'm sure of that.
Oz
i was talking about this with the mrs., and we can recount at least half dozen cases in the last 20 years of adult j.w.
men having sex with teenage boys or girls.
not only were the police not informed, but also the victim was treated as a guilty party in fornication.
Yes
30 something MS with wife and kids got 14 yr old sister in law pregnant. He was DF, moved state with family. The girls family kept it from the law to keep gods name clean etc etc.
19 years later the kid has no idea uncle so and so is his father.
Oz
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174181/sales-rep-repeatedly-accused-gay-didn-t-like-football-wins-44-000-payout-harassment.html.
sales rep who was branded 'gay' because he didnt like football wins 44,000 payout following months of 'atrocious' bullying.
michael austin was branded a 'crafty butcher' by his workmates.
Well i'll be darned! Evidently i am gay! And all it took was two Jehovahs witnesses to inform me...
JWs can be such dip shits at work. One i eventually met made such an ass of himself that when i told the interviewer of the job i was after that i was JW he flatly refused to grant the interview!
serves them right... the world needs to see these shmucks for what they are, not better than, in fact worse than a good many that they look down on
oz
my son came to visit today, he and i are getting a lot closer since he left his jw home and thanks largely to his mother and step father alienating him big time.
he needs one of his parents to help him out at times and he can't turn to his mother.
thats sad but its her loss, and his i guess.. anyway, he recently got himself a girlfriend, a worldly girl at that.
Thankyou for the great comments.
You all have no idea how much this forum and the people on it have helped me in my own journey and without that i wouldnt know how to help my kids either.
Yes, they know 'good' jws who are doing all the drugs etc, at least they tell me everything, i value the dialogue i have got going with the kids.
thankyou
Oz
http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.
hello citizens of the world.
we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.
It does not matter us discussing whether this is good or bad. Nor discussing whether it will lead to witch hunts, nor which is the greater wrong!
If this is 'anonymous', and this is their intent, they will do what they will do. If an outside organization wants to take a fight to the WT, they will.
All there is for US to do is grab the popcorn and watch the show, it's not in our hands.
Oz
my son came to visit today, he and i are getting a lot closer since he left his jw home and thanks largely to his mother and step father alienating him big time.
he needs one of his parents to help him out at times and he can't turn to his mother.
thats sad but its her loss, and his i guess.. anyway, he recently got himself a girlfriend, a worldly girl at that.
Now to make sure he has direction in life. Its one thing to help them out but another to help them not self destruct from the discovery of the lie and freedom from the WT rules. In all honestly i would rather them in the JWs than fucking themselves on drugs or stupid living if you know what i mean! They do show a bit of a propensity to party hard...he drinks hard and i know he has tried weed.
anyway, i am planning a father/son weekend away because he needs to come to grips with a lot of stuff to do with not only the lie, but his sense of loss over his mother and i divorcing, how to function in a normal world, the type of good decisions to make etc etc...
tonight i made him call his mother (she found out about the weed). She was hysterical, and it was the first time she had spoken to me in years and it was to ask me to deal with it. I did, nuff said! But perhaps the best thing was that he fessed up to his mother that he no longer wanted to be JW. She told him that she suspected so for a while and that all she wanted was for him to be happy and safe. A huge relief for him i can tell you.
I am excited and scared at the same time for my two kids.
Oz
does anyone know what was said at the 2012 district convetion about websites?.
subject: jw forum .
http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?sid=a428e22582822b1665b41d48ee8f58c9&mforum=jw.
The lovely thing is that sooner rather than later, yet another JW will see a 'need' and start another one, and the WT will have to get them to shut down...
repeat and rinse...
Oz
